shanlung (shanlung) wrote,

Doink doink // food management //Oberon - Ending this chapter


Doink Doink

I so nearly wanted to write in last report where I first saw that doink doink being used. But I did not as it was so difficult to explain.
Tiffani of not only brought that up :-), she even went as far as to locate on youtube that particular part where the doink doink was used.

In her words.


By the way...
You write at your journal:
"...Or one inch bundle of thin stalks were used for the beating...."
I saw this "meridian doing doing" vor many...many years in an very long, depressing, traditionell film.
It called in german: red lantern
At the first sekond you can see the meridian doing doing, in the old tradition
Look here


Tiffani, thank you so much.

That was from a hauntingly beautiful and bitterly sad movie.
The title of that movie was Raise the Red Lantern
(simplified Chinese: 大红灯笼高高挂;
traditional Chinese: 大紅燈籠高高掛;
pinyin: Dà...Hóng..Dēnglóng..Gāo..gāo...Guà)
.........Big. .Red...Lantern...High..high..hung

That translated to Hang the Red Lantern High , or Hang the Red Lantern, or Raise the Red Lantern, or just the Red Lantern.
That is a 1991 film directed by Zhang Yimou and starring Gong Li. It is an adaption by Ni Zhen of the 1990 novel Wives and Concubines by Su Tong.

In the past good old days when wives were to walk 5 mincing steps behind the husband and master, the husband and master was entitled to have many wives. And when the husband was to spend the night with one of the wives, a big red lantern was to be hung up high over the door of her room to signify the honour. To prepare the wife for the evening, she would be given a special foot massage by being beaten on the sole of the feet with the doink doink which was an exquisite delight. It is strange to read of torture of prisoners by being whacked on the sole of the feet. I guess too much of a good thing can be very bad.

Master and wives all have dinner together first, but the one to be slept with would decide what dishes she would like for that communal dinner. Kind of rubbing that in for the other wives.

Described as "one of the landmark films of the 1990s" by Jonathan Crow of Allmovie,[16] where it received 5 stars, since its release Raise the Red Lantern has been very well received. James Berardinelli named it his 7th best film of the 1990s.[17] It has a 96% certified fresh rating at Rotten Tomatoes[18] and TV Guide gave it 5 stars.

The film has also been praised for its artistic merit. Desson Howe of The Washington Post states that "In purely aesthetic terms, "Raise the Red Lantern" is breathtaking"[22] and James Berardinelli states that "the appeal to the eye only heightens the movie's emotional power". John Hartl of describe it to be "a near-perfect movie that often recalls the visual purity and intensity of silent films."[18]
Check out

That can be a spoiler.

Do not worry about that being a spoiler. Artistically the movie is incredible, and that really got to be seen , and knowing the story line will not detract from that.


Food management

Fleur of wrote

Hi Shan Lung I must admit that I was interested in your write up on birds recognising their reflection. I did wonder if greys and Shamas are different from cockatoos in this respect. My bare eyed cockatoo does not appear to recognise his reflection. When he sees himself in a mirror he will chatter to his reflection and then start screaming and bashing his beak against the mirror. and jumping up and down. Maybe it is just Havock or maybe it is BE2s. I will have to try your trick of cueing a recall in the mirror and see what Havock does.

I am sorry to hear that things with Oberon have not worked out as you would have liked. I hope you are able to find yourself another bird and that it will become a companion for you. Have you ever had anyone think you are crazy for treating birds the way your do? There are still so many people that think that a bird is a talking decoration it must be a shock for them to see you taking your birds out in a harness and leash and letting them fly. Oh well maybe it will open their eyes a little.

One thing I enjoy about reading about your parrots is the fact that you refuse to use food control. . . . . .


My refusal to use food control was historical.

That started at love at first sight of a little grey in Taiwan Taipei after I saw at least 30-40 greys over a period of a couple of weeks . She was in a cage pecking in a bowl of fine powder that I thought was food. Then I saw the fine powder was husks of sun flower seeds chewed and chewed to a fine powder. It was anguish for me to see that as can be imagined. There and then, I knew she was mine. There and then, I knew her name.

I promised myself there and then that never ever will that Tinkerbell be hungry again.

Mentally, I was incapable of withholding food from Tinkerbell from the point of first sighting. Later on in clicker training forum where food was advised to be with hold from the birdie, I just could not complied with that. Yet, so strangely to all that time, she responded so well to clicker training even thought that was done on full stomach and abundance of food for her at all times. I so nearly gave in when Tinkerbell first flew away from me and later returned to me by Mr Yu. But the thoughts of her at first sighting could not make me with hold food ever.

Then the first meeting with my Birdwhisperer of Tsaoling. At the time when I wrote my first report of him in real time and my meeting of him , I had not realised I was recording that he was already teaching me. My asking him of his how he trained his birdies was deflected into talking and joking about feelings and emotions of the birdies. At that time, I thought all that was quite inane as I was so sure of the more acceptable way of training birdies then.

In a subsequent meeting with him at Tsaoling, the reality of what he was doing then really sunk in .
Then I realised , as in the Zen saying, I mistaken the finger pointing to the moon as the moon itself. With Tinkerbell doing what she done for me without me ever compelling her with food, and then my meetings with Mr Lin of Tsaoling, I just cannot use withholding of food to compel a birdie . I confessed to one lapse as recorded
Getting Riam to do a flyabout// how sickening could I get?

In the training with Yingshiong, those were all done after his breakfast. Then you seen Riamfada and then Libai. Even with Oberon, I felt slightly guilty in that Oberon probably flew to my hand because he was hungry. But his hunger was never more than 15 minutes or so as I knew without me, he would fly to take his food every 45 minutes or so. I presented his food every hour or so.

As said before, I am prepared to use food management to keep weight within a healthy range as could be seen with Libai.

I am not prepared to use food management to compel birdie or beastie to do things I want them to do.


Oberon - Ending this chapter

More photos in Flickr folder Oberon - Ending this chapter

I mentioned in last report I tested his preference for meal worms by placing meal worms in mash bowl instead of in separate bowl


Regardless of on the chair or hold in my hand, Oberon chose the mash.


For a while, I thought since he liked the mash so much, that perhaps I feed Oberon what he was feed in the shop, chicken feed, and use the Oberon mash as a treat for training. That was just a thought as I could not withhold what I felt he required nutritionally that I prepared for him under whatever guise or rationalization. I feared if I started on that, where will I end? Will I rationalize even further and further?

Thereby winning the war and losing my soul.

I wanted a companion. Perhaps the time was too short for Oberon to decide to be a companion. Perhaps he was too traumatised. Perhaps this kind of bird should not be kept. And of course, perhaps the fault was all mine.

Oberon, the Asian Fairy Bluebird is a bird that inhabit South East Asia and a local bird. A bird watching friend told me where he seen them in Singapore, a place which I do not care to mention in my blog. Oberon will be returned to the wild where he might meet with others of his kind this coming Sunday October 2 2011

He would need to be transported there. And therefore he needed a small cage, the cage you have seen stored on top of his cage. That was Libai's cage. I do not care to chase and catch him. So I had to get him used to the small cage. And to get Oberon to enter the little cage himself.

The cage was therefore removed from the top and kept on the table.


The feeding cups in the little cage were turned into foraging points with a few meal worms. And in time, Oberon decided to check them out.



Please note the little round mirror in the corner of the big cage. My wife bought that and e fixed it there during the time of Yingshiong. My wife loved YS very much even though YS snubbed her most of the time. That mirror was left there for Libai and Oberon, because I was too lazy to bother to remove that.

I actually felt there was no need for any mirror. After all, the glass sliding doors separating the flight room from living room were in fact huge ceiling to floor mirrors when seen from the perspective of the flight room. Especially in the morning when it was bright outside and the living room still very dark. I am not sure if Fleur's BE2 Havock did not recognise his image or playing a parroty joke on Fleur.
HCL of Malaysian Bird forum wrote to say his CAG and his Hill Mynah recognised their own reflections.

Maybe the specialist who wrote CAGS did not recognise own reflection also could not recognised his own reflection in the mirror together with Havock (if Havock was not playing a cockatooie joke on Fleur)


Last few photos of Oberon while still with me




And the last time Oberon was on my hand


I decided that fattening him up to prepare his fat reserve was far more important. The mash bowl was placed in the little cage for him to eat all that he wanted and the meal worms were in the foraging cups in that cage as well.

He ate about 25 grams of the mash daily with 4-5 grams of meal worms. Last Sunday first thing in morning I decided to find his weight. When he was in the little cage, I closed the door. I then reached in and caught him to his extreme displeasure. I wrapped him in a towel and weighed Oberon. I was so surprised to see with all his feeding that his weight was 64.4 grams. Very little change from the 64 grams when he first came to me. So obviously, he was good at self regulating unlike Libai the Greater Green Leafbird.

I even bought crickets still hoping to the hope he might like that treat and perhaps give me the chance to train together with him. So one cup had meal worms and the other cup in the cage had crickets and the mash bowl on the floor of the cage.

Even that last hope was gone as at the end of the day, he ate 25 grams of mash, had some meal worms, and 2 crickets leaving 4 more behind.

I was wondering what I was going to do with the crickets which Oberon was not enthusiatic at eating. Sieben the gwaigwai shishi took that problem out of the hands. I came to the living room this morning to see the cricket box overturned with only a few crickets left inside. I could not hear the chirping of crickets as I feared they became escapees in the living room. Sieben redeemed himself and must have eaten up the cricket escapees or he would have lost another life.

I half wanted to kick Sieben for overturning the crickets and half wanted to hug Sieben for taking the problem what to do with the crickets out of my hand. Sieben was suspicious of me and kept out of my reach that morning.

Maybe I should not feed Sieben this evening to ensure he removed any of the escapees that evaded him this morning.




Oberon with a big glop of mash in his mouth. He jumped to the perch after taking that from the mash bowl. The little cup he was next to hold the meal worms and the other hold the crickets. I removed the hind jumping legs of the crickets to make sure they remain in that little cup.

More photos in Flickr folder Oberon - Ending this chapter

LiBai mash making.
About 300 grams of beef mince, with 200 grams of chicken mince and 150 grams of dried anchovies(for the calcium). That was all done up to the kitty mash formula I wrote about in
Pakistan//Tinkerbell Kitty Mash//Dommie at the beach Ramadhan 2010 //Villa walkabout 2
Instead of the almond and brazil nuts, about 100 grams of human grade groundnuts(peanuts) were used.

Making of Tinkerbell Mash
Morning with Harry & the decision// Sultan of Oman Palace// Tinkerbell Mash Batch 7

suri - Read "Conditioning clicker day 3 - and some tips on suris"

milli - read "Found the perfect treat and Yingshiong first "step up""

if you forgotten about clicker training

Tinkerbell Legacy - VH parrot and Clicker Training Rant 06

Some thoughts on clicker - The initial experience with Tinkerbell

Clicker training and bonding with Tinkerbell

To Shanlung-Charlie and clicker training

Charlie and clicker training - beyond touch target //LiBai on finger and in slow motion videos —



Read Riamfada free flights in villa // And around neighbourhood for explicit details

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