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Li Bai - Conditiong the clicker and easing him over the barrier
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if you forgotten about conditioniong the clicker.

Start of clicker training - Conditioning the Clicker (Riamfada)
http://shanlung.livejournal.com/82382.html

Clicker training - Conditioning of clicker day 1 (Yingshiong)
http://shanlung.livejournal.com/30220.html

Tinkerbell Legacy - VH parrot and Clicker Training Rant 06
http://shanlung.livejournal.com/3419.html

Some thoughts on clicker - The initial experience with Tinkerbell
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/clicker-L-somethoughtsonclickera.html

Clicker training and bonding with Tinkerbell
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/clicker-L-ctbondinga.html

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I also thought it appropriate to bring into here something I wrote in July 2008.
This was From Muscat and clicker training http://shanlung.livejournal.com/79261.html

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Hi folks,

This is me writing from Muscat, Oman after a couple of months or so in Dubai and after a long absence from here.

Hits to Tink site from this thread prompted me to revisit here.

With some humble comments I like to add.

It will be a big mistake if we think clicker training is merely a 'Palovian conditioning'. In which case do you accept your entire life and education to be another sort of 'Palovian conditioning'?

It will demean your beastie to be nothing but an conditioned stomach and mouth that you go on to teach 'tricks'. If you hold that mindset, then your reality and what you perceived of the reality WILL be fixed as such in your mind.

And you will forever forgo a wonderful and close relationship with your beasties that can be yours.

And just food for your thoughts. If training is just Palovian food conditioning, why did Tinkerbell and Yingshiong persisted in flying to me and overflying my wife when she clearly had food in her hands trying to distract them and I clearly had empty hands when I called them? Surely they should have gone to the food carrier rather than to me?

Clicker is not important and only a tool. But surely you would like to have a good tool. I am sure you can play good tennis with a wooden racket. But wouldn't you play even better tennis with a good graphit racket?

I find the clicker to be iconic for the training.

When I hold a clicker in the hand, my mind focus to the very moment between me and the beastie. And when my beastie saw that clicker in my hand, they focused on the training there and then raising the awareness to a point of sharpness amost akin to Zen type of awareness.

Indeed, I do not need the clicker. But why should I not use the clicker when it seemed to help so much. And when I talk of a clicker, it can be anything that make a consistent sound, which can be a pen, or tie clip.

I wrote even more in the Tinkerbell webpages.

I tried my best to bring the water to the horses, for the sake of their beasties. Horses cannot be made to drink if they choose not to drink.

If you think of clicker as Palovian conditioning, why not? Perhaps you are right and I just completely wrong.

Warmest regards

Shanlung

http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/

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Clicker training is a good technique to train together and bond with your bird, cat, dog. And if you are really good and like greater challenge, and extremely courageous, maybe even your spouse.

I think it will be a mistake if we think Clicker training or Operant Conditioning is all that is needed. Understanding of the birdie/beastie is crucial. If you think a birdie who is afraid of you will miraculously be unafraid of you after you start clicker training, you are very wrong.

There must be a lot more , and that must be from your heart.

To rely purely on just technique alone is like an old Zen saying.
"Mistaking the finger pointing to the moon as the moon itself"

I do believe this technique is best used together with understanding your bird and his/her quirks. The training will be more meaningful and easier for both parties.

I have been conditioning the clicker with Li Bai. That had been going on the last 7 days or so. I click, pull out a small meal worm, and give that to Li Bai who ate it with relish. That done over and over again. So that Li Bai associate the sound of the clicker as a good sound.

Conditioning the clicker is a necessary and only the first step of this process. This is passive but a crucial step to the next even far more important step of 'Touch Target'. That will be when Li Bai must take a active role in the clicker training. And to understand actions will be required of him. Hopefully he will put that together in his head as a form of communicating. And extend that to me. Where he can reverse the process and take an active part in molding the training that we will be doing together. And get to better understanding of each other.

Touch Target will what we will be doing next.

I wanted Li Bai to graduate from his flight room to the rest of the apartment. To graduate , he must fly to me on recall cues.

If he is going to fly to me, he should not be afraid of coming to me. He had accepted my hand offering worms and crickets to take from my hand. But he had not come to me yet. So while I was conditioning the clicker, I was also encouraging him flying towards me was ok too.

You seen how I changed that food bowl to be on a stool nearer to me. To start that process of him flying at least closer to me.

I moved the stool a day later to between my knees.

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Li Bai found he did not disappear into a puff of smoke.

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And the mash still tasted good.

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Caught him above in a shot of him flying to the stool.

When he got used to flying to the stool, I changed that to even closer to me.
Right between my thighs. He resisted a very short while. He first flew to the stool. Eventually he hopped over.

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Then he found it easier the next and the next and the next time. Finally skipping flying to the stool and flying over to land directly near the food.

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I feared that would be too boring for LiBai. So I up the ante.
I hold the bowl. In short time, he found landing on my finger to eat the mash was ok and he did not become a puff of smoke.

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Again and again and again

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Earlier on, I wrote of wanting to get LiBai's weight. I was then thinking of Yingshiong flying down to the scale at my cue to get weighed. That was after I went into touch target and beyond with Yingshiong.

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Just as there are many ways to skin a cat, there are many ways to weigh a bird.
Since LiBai was so fond of landing on the bowl to eat mash, and I found I had another scale good for 0.1 grams, I placed that bowl on the scale, set it to 0, and got Li Bai's weight.

Li Bai weight first thing in the morning on empty stomach is 38.2 grams.

I did not think of taking the photo then. So the scale reading that you see in the photo was taken later.

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Ivan was very unhappy at being evicted from his favourite sunning spot in the flight room.

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I had been thinking of getting Ivan to know LiBai is family. After all, it was Ivan and his rescue of the tiny bat when he realised that was family during the time we were all living in Hongkong in 1998. I wrote of that in
Dubai trip //Ivan & Batty // Roundabout come.
http://shanlung.livejournal.com/105465.html

That incident kick started me into that Ménage_à_trois in Taiwan comprising of Tinkerbell, Zorro and Halftail the Bimbo. And last Ménage_à_trois in Oman of Riamfada, Dommie and Katie.

So I allowed Ivan to be into the flight room with me and Li Bai

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if you forgotten about conditioniong the clicker.

Start of clicker training - Conditioning the Clicker (Riamfada)
http://shanlung.livejournal.com/82382.html

Clicker training - Conditioning of clicker day 1 (Yingshiong)
http://shanlung.livejournal.com/30220.html

Tinkerbell Legacy - VH parrot and Clicker Training Rant 06
http://shanlung.livejournal.com/3419.html

Some thoughts on clicker - The initial experience with Tinkerbell
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/clicker-L-somethoughtsonclickera.html

Clicker training and bonding with Tinkerbell
http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9/clicker-L-ctbondinga.html

if you forgotten about conditioniong the clicker.
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FREE FLIGHT IS LIFE AND DEATH PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS YOURSELF UNLESS YOU DO KNOW.
NEVER EVER FREE FLY WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE AS THIS CAN LEAD TO LOSS AND DEATH OF YOUR BIRD.

Read Riamfada free flights in villa // And around neighbourhood for explicit details
http://shanlung.livejournal.com/121070.html



If what I wrote help you and you like to help, give a thought
for the wildlife sharing our planet.
Do write that cheque to Gerald Durrell wildlife trust

I am a life member of Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust. Do join us to do
whatever we can for the wildlife that shared our planet.


http://www.durrellwildlife.org/
or to any wildlife conservation body of your choice







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Excellent Progress

(Anonymous)
So heartening to see Li Bai on your finger without apparent fear. AO

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